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Forget China GDP, Other Indicators Paint Bearish Picture
By: Jean Chua



Markets may be fixated on China's widely-anticipated growth data due on Friday, but some analysts tell CNBC investors should look beyond the figures and focus on several other indicators which, they say, paint a more dire picture of the economy.
According to Paul Gambles, managing partner at MBMG, China's gross domestic product (GDP) data — widely regarded as a barometer of the country's economic health — are among the "less reliable" figures from the government.

"We tend to take the view that the least reliable statistics that come out of China are perhaps the GDP numbers, the unemployment numbers and the CPI numbers," Gambles told CNBC on Wednesday. Instead, investors should place more importance on data like energy usage, new car sales external Purchasing Managers' Index, which he said pointed to a less robust Chinese economy.

Earlier this week, David Carbon, Managing Director of Economics and Currencies at DBS Bank, told CNBC that China's economy is accelerating again,basing his argument on the latest inflation data, which came in at a higher-than-expected 3.6 percent in March.

But Gordon Chang, author of the book "The Coming Collapse of China", argued that inflation in China is under-reported, and has in fact fallen in recent months.

"I think one of the big stories is that the rate of inflation has obviously come down very, very quickly over the last three or four months, which shows a deterioration in the economy," Chang said. "When you put that together with the bad electricity production statistics, bellwether car sales, new lending, all of those numbers point to either a contraction or essentially an economy growing at 3 to 4 percent."

Chang added that China can’t be growing at 8.4 percent in the first quarter — as forecasted last week by Zhang Xiaoqiang, deputy director of China's National Development and Reform Commission.

"China's not going to grow at 8.4 percent. It grew in low-single digits in January and February, if you combine those two months, from any number of official statistics that the government issued. You'd have to have incredible growth in March, just to average out at 8.4," Chang said.

He also pointed to a contraction of the country's manufacturing sector, as reflected in the latest HSBC Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) reading.

The HSBC private survey of smaller factories released earlier this month showed a reading of 48.3 in March, declining from February's 49.6, largely in line with a preliminary PMI reading of 48.1. The figures seem to contradict the official PMI, which jumped to an 11-month high of 53.1 in March, up from February's reading of 51.

Chang however cautioned against reading too much into the official figure, which measures the activity of large factories.

"It's an official number and that number doesn't correlate with anything that we know either about the January and February period or March," he said. "And when you look at the HSBC number, it's much more consistent with the data that we know."

Gambles added that the official PMI seemed weak given the strong factory activity expected after the Lunar New Year holidays.

"Following Chinese New Year, you always expect a strong bounce in PMI and actually the bounce in PMI wasn't so great even on the official numbers. Something like 56 would be more in line with the post-Chinese New Year PMI, so I think the problems are still there."

Their views are far more bearish than those of majority market watchers, who expect China’s full-year growth to exceed the 7.5 percent forecast by the Chinese government. Both Song Seng Wun, Regional Economist at CIMB Research, and Stephen Roach, a senior fellow at Yale University's Jackson Institute of Global Affairs, told CNBC earlier this week that China's economy could expand as much as 9 percent this year.




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mu_lianzheng 发表于 2012-4-11 22:50:22
Forget China GDP, Other Indicators Paint Bearish Picture
忘记中国国内生产总值,其它指标显示出了危机四伏

Markets may be fixated on China's widely-anticipated growth data due on Friday, but some analysts tell CNBC investors should look beyond the figures and focus on several other indicators which, they say, paint a more dire picture of the economy.
市场的焦点可能广泛关注在定于上周五公布的经济增长数据,但一些分析家告诉CNBC的投资者应该看长远的数字,并主要关注具有预测性的几个指标,他们说,这表明经济的危机四伏。
According to Paul Gambles, managing partner at MBMG, China's gross domestic product (GDP) data — widely regarded as a barometer of the country's economic health — are among the "less reliable" figures from the government.
根据MBMG管理合伙人保罗说在,中国的国内生产总值数据被广泛视为一个国家的经济健康状况的晴雨表- 但从ZF公布的数据备受质疑.

"We tend to take the view that the least reliable statistics that come out of China are perhaps the GDP numbers, the unemployment numbers and the CPI numbers," Gambles told CNBC on Wednesday. Instead, investors should place more importance on data like energy usage, new car sales external Purchasing Managers' Index, which he said pointed to a less robust Chinese economy.
保罗周三对CNBC电视频道说:“我们倾向于关注最受质疑的统计数据,包括中国的GDP数据,失业人数和物价消费指数,”。 相反,投资者吧目光放在能源消耗数据以及新汽车销售外部采购经理指数等中国经济的薄弱环节.

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zhdefei 在职认证  发表于 2012-4-12 08:51:10
I agree that  the rate of inflation in China is underestimated, but the GDP is overestimated. We need robust mareket and real CPI.
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桶桶nancy 在职认证  发表于 2012-4-12 11:07:48
Toxic products poison the body, toxic  data poison economics, the national bureau of statistics for the first time in details of the facts, and inform the public of the production process of toxic data.

Recimmend reading:http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_49818dcb0102e0gi.html
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绵阳 发表于 2012-4-12 12:39:21
This is not conspiracy theory
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hope. 发表于 2012-4-12 13:43:19
One thousand readers, one thousand Hamlets. The expectation of economy is the same.
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listenhi 发表于 2012-4-12 15:47:06
Earlier this week, David Carbon, Managing Director of Economics and Currencies at DBS Bank, told CNBC that China's economy is accelerating again,basing his argument on the latest inflation data, which came in at a higher-than-expected 3.6 percent in March.

But Gordon Chang, author of the book "The Coming Collapse of China", argued that inflation in China is under-reported, and has in fact fallen in recent months.

"I think one of the big stories is that the rate of inflation has obviously come down very, very quickly over the last three or four months, which shows a deterioration in the economy," Chang said. "When you put that together with the bad electricity production statistics, bellwether car sales, new lending, all of those numbers point to either a contraction or essentially an economy growing at 3 to 4 percent."

Chang added that China can’t be growing at 8.4 percent in the first quarter — as forecasted last week by Zhang Xiaoqiang, deputy director of China's National Development and Reform Commission.

这周早些时候,David Carbon,星展银行的货币与经济部门的常务总监对CNBC的记者说:基于最新的通胀数据显示3月的实际通胀大于预测的3.6%,他认为中国的经济又开始加速了。
但是张戈登(Gordon Chang),《中国即将崩溃》的作者,认为中国的通胀数据并没有被正确报道,而真实的通胀数据在最近的几个月是下降的。
“我认为一个主要的逻辑(story)是在过去的三到四个月中,通胀率已经明显的快速下降。这表明经济形势已经严重恶化。”张(Chang)说,“当你把不佳的电力生产统计数据,汽车市场的不景气,新的经济着陆放在一起,你会发现这些数据都指向经济收缩或者只有3%或4%的实际GDP增长率。”
同上周发改委副主任张晓强的预测一样,张(Chang)也认为中国第一季度的GDP增长应该不会达到8.4%。

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mu_lianzheng 发表于 2012-4-12 15:52:42
Gambles added that the official PMI seemed weak given the strong factory activity expected after the Lunar New Year holidays.
Gambles接着说官方的PMI数据显示出了弱势,而之前人们预期春节之后工业会强劲上升.
"Following Chinese New Year, you always expect a strong bounce in PMI and actually the bounce in PMI wasn't so great even on the official numbers. Something like 56 would be more in line with the post-Chinese New Year PMI, so I think the problems are still there."
春节过后,人们总是期待PMI指数反弹,但是即便是官方数据也不尽如人意.例如56似乎更符合实际情况,所以我认为问题仍然存在
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shenxiaoqiang 发表于 2012-4-12 17:09:22
The HSBC PMI is contradict to the official PMI.What leads to this interesting difference is the core.Futhermore,how to analyse and use the data is a problem.
1.difference in choosing sample
the official PMI:about 800 factories;focus on large factories
the HSBC  PMI:about 400 factories;focus on smaller factories
2.difference in expectation
large factories:positive about the economy
smaller factories:negative about the economy
3.if revise the data on the basis of seasonal fluctuation
the official PMI: no
the HSBC  PMI:yes


The prospect of Chinese economy is not good,it's a bad news for us to find a job.
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whachel1976 发表于 2012-4-12 19:05:26
Although there used to be many predictions on China's GDP's up and down, at last, almost every year, China's GDP growth rate would be at least above 7%.
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