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[CFA] 不要做中国精算师   [推广有奖]

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sysu_nan 在职认证  发表于 2013-2-26 10:03:01
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o0odudu 发表于 2013-2-26 12:37:12
其实心态放平,选择一个国家发展下去,比具体的待遇地位神马的重要

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enzzo 发表于 2013-2-26 12:47:19
这个可以套用在任何一个工作上面吗?包括别在中国发帖说话?

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NYGiants 发表于 2013-2-26 13:57:03
前两天不是还好几个Canadians 抱怨中国工作不好找 很想回上海吃火锅么? 哈哈 开玩笑
各人有各人立场 没必要ARGUE的 有10000个理由在美国 也同样有10000个理由在中国
在美国拿7万刀年薪 做个技术工 过个4,5年,在中国有很多靠人脉 靠关系 做高管,做私募的不到30岁 都身家上亿了,到时候谁是Loser还真没个定论。
Rank by Market Cap   
[tr][/tr]
RankInsurance companyCountryMarket cap (US$bn), 3/2012
1

Berkshire Hathaway

US201.135
2

China Life Insurance

China73.371
3

American International Group

US58.480
4

Allianz

Germany54.245
5

Ping An Insurance

China51.463
6

AIA Group

Hong Kong44.133
7

Metlife

US39.719
8

Zurich Financial Services

Switzerland39.559
9

AXA

France39.017
10

ING

Netherlands31.863

如果真看life sector, 中国的mkt cap没少于美国吧。
这世界根本没有loser,只有一些用loser的心态去做评断的人.
不在美国工作/生活 就loser了?如果按此逻辑
GPA没4.0 的人就loser? 没读到PhD的人都loser? 没去上HYP的人也loser? 没进到高盛的全loser?

那些既然选择在美国工作的人,就努力做,好好生活,别想一些有的没的,患得患失,不值得。

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zcg6433 发表于 2013-2-26 14:56:18
NYGiants 发表于 2013-2-26 13:57
前两天不是还好几个Canadians 抱怨中国工作不好找 很想回上海吃火锅么? 哈哈 开玩笑
各人有各人立场 没必 ...
Overal, you made a great point.
However, there are a few things that need more clarifications.

It seems not fair to compare those doing PE in China with those working as actuaries in the US. It seems not fair to compare the top 0.1% of those working in PE in China with the actuaries below average in the US.
It appears to me that you reached such a conclusion because you are not makeing fair comparisons.

I do want to thank you for saying what is in your mind.
As I said, it is the discussions that invigorate the forum.

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NYGiants 发表于 2013-2-26 15:29:17
zcg6433 发表于 2013-2-26 14:56
I dont quite follow what you mean.
It will be great if you can clarify what you meant by "患得患失 ...
Just follow your heart. Don't try to calculate the opportunity cost at every point in life.

If you choose to stay in US for whatever reason, convince yourself it's the best decision.
Nothing to do with China.

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zcg6433 发表于 2013-2-26 15:31:06
NYGiants 发表于 2013-2-26 15:29
Just follow your heart. Don't try to calculate the opportunity cost at every point in life.

If ...
If you do not compare, how do you make decisions?
Take a look at the edits of my previous post...

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NYGiants 发表于 2013-2-26 16:13:28
zcg6433 发表于 2013-2-26 14:56
Overal, you made a great point.
However, there are a few things that need more clarifications.
...
U r absolutely right. I'm not telling a perfect example considering the equally treated job offer. I just wanna point out there exist a lot of ppl who declined an "average" job offer ( not  necessarily actuarial) overseas and decided to work in China, later became extremely successful. And I also know a lot of ABCs working in China are not good.

你说得对。我举的例子并不是比较两个绝对平行的工作机会。我只是讲 有很多海龟放弃了一些 在海外的白领的普通工作,在中国很适应社交人脉,赚到上亿。也有很多ABC在中国工作,思维做事方式太直接,事业只能算勉强有个工作。In reality, we all got our comparative advantages, so our choices are different.

You are right about actuarial environment in China in ur orignial post. It's not as mature as American system. 我也只是举个例子,比如回中国可以做私募的,也许不会留下美国做精算。

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bocm 发表于 2013-2-26 23:34:47
Agreed!

I have a friend who went back to China and then soon decided to come back.

No matter how much money you can earn in China, it is 浮云.

No personal life in China ......

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beauty11235 发表于 2013-2-26 23:59:19
have a look
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