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超级健忘 发表于 2011-6-17 07:01:12 |AI写论文

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Jack Ma Dissembling on Yahoo Dispute?




For more than a month, Alibaba Group founder Jack Ma has been besieged by demands that he explain how his company had decided to transfer ownership of its online payments unit to a new entity under his control, apparently without the go-ahead from principal shareholders Yahoo and Softbank Corp. This week he seemed eager to respond to those demands – after a fashion.

In a text-message exchange with the chief editor of Chinese business magazine Caixin published on Monday and in a press conference a day later, Mr. Ma offered a lengthy defense of Alibaba’s divesting itself of the payment unit, Alipay, which the company had earlier said was necessary to comply with a Chinese central bank rule prohibiting foreign ownership of an online payment company.

The takeaway: A lot of sound and fury, none of which is likely to silence his critics.

According to Caixin, Mr. Ma contacted top editor Hu Shuli on Sunday in response to a Caixin editorial titled “Why Jack Ma is Wrong,” in which Ms. Hu criticized the executive’s handling of the Alipay transfer. In a conversation that spread over two days, Mr. Ma accused Ms. Hu of passing judgment on the matter “without knowing the basic facts” and said the Alipay issue involved “more than just commercial interests.”


At the subsequent press conference, held in Alibaba’s home city of Hangzhou, Mr. Ma went on the offensive against Yahoo founder Jerry Yang and Softbank CEO Masayoshi Son, accusing them of engaging in “stalling tactics.”

As shareholders, they were right,” Mr. Ma said. “But as directors, they wereboth wrong.

Yahoo and Softbank together own more than 70% of Alibaba Group. Mssrs. Yang and Son both sit on Alibaba Group’s board of directors.

Whether or not there are national security implications to Alipay’s ownership structure, Mr. Ma’s insistence on the need to transfer ownership is not really at issue. Alibaba Group and Yahoo appear to agree that the transfer needed to take place in order to obtain proper licensing for the unit (licensing Alipay obtained at the end of May).

What Mr. Ma did not address is why the transfer took place without board approval, and whether it was in line with the companies’ original contract in 2005, which stipulates that any transaction worth more than $10 million that involves the transfer of assets, including subsidiaries, of Alibaba Group must be approved by the company’s board or shareholders.

Responding to those questions in his conversation with Caixin’s Ms. Hu, Mr. Ma said only: “It’s a shame that people don’t believe Chinese entrepreneurs can honor the spirit of contracts, even now, with a better understanding of the law than foreigners.”

Alibaba Group has previously said that the transfer of Alipay had been discussed at numerous board meetings and that the board had been informed of the transfer in July of 2009. Yahoo maintains it was not made aware of the move until March 31 of this year.

The lack of information has inevitably lead to speculation about what really happened, some of it plausible-sounding and some of it clearly creeping downthe path toward conspiracy theory.

Yahoo and Alibaba Group appear to have developed the outlines of an agreement that would allow the companies to resolve the Alipay mess, but that agreement would require a sign-off from Softbank. Softbank has remained curiously quiet on the matter so far, leading some to wonder whether the Japanese telecoms giant plans to challenge Alibabaon the decision.

In either case, until Alibaba decides to offer up the “basic facts” and answer the hard questions, Mr. Ma can expect the criticism to continue.


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chinalin2002 发表于 2011-6-17 08:01:26
29.........29

dissemble [di'sembl]
vt. 掩饰,掩盖;假装
vi. 隐藏,掩饰(思想、感情等)

besiege [bi'si:dʒ]: vt. 围困;包围;烦扰

divest [dai'vest, di-]: vt. 剥夺;使脱去,迫使放弃

sound and fury: 大吵大闹;喧嚣与愤怒

the basic facts: 基本事实

more than just commercial interests:不仅仅是商业利益

stalling tactics:拖延战术

"As shareholders, they were right," Mr. Ma said. "But as directors, they were both wrong."
马先生说:“作为股东,他们是正确的,但是作为董事,他们全部是错误的。”

Mr. Ma's insistence on the need to transfer ownership is not really at issue
马先生在需要转移所有权方面的坚持不是真正的问题。

Alibaba Group and Yahoo appear to agree that the transfer needed to take place in order to obtain proper licensing for the unit.
阿里巴巴集团和雅虎似乎同意支付宝所有权转移应该发生在其可以获得合适许可的时候。

without board approval:没有经过董事会通过

stipulate ['stipjuleit]
vi. 规定;保证
vt. 规定;保证
adj. 有托叶的

It's a shame that people don't believe Chinese entrepreneurs can honor the spirit of contracts, even now, with a better understanding of the law than foreigners
可惜的是人们不相信中国企业家能够尊重合同的精神,即使现在他们对于法律的理解比外国人更深刻。


The lack of information has inevitably lead to speculation about what really happened, some of it plausible-sounding and some of it clearly creeping downthe path toward conspiracy theory.
信息的缺乏不可避免地导致对究竟发生过什么的猜测,其中一些听起来很有道理,而还有一些则偏向于阴谋论。

plausible-sounding:听起来很有道理

conspiracy theory:阴谋论
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2441414 在职认证  发表于 2011-6-17 08:34:32
It’s a shame that people don’t believe Chinese entrepreneurs can honor the spirit of contracts, even now, with a better understanding of the law than foreigners
佛说:不可曰。

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旅途8694 发表于 2011-6-17 08:34:59
38,38
It’s inappropriate for Internet companies in China to have high foreign ownership given the increasing regulations on overseas investment rules in the industry.
只要相信自己所走的路,大步向前走就好,然后就那样成为一个能让别人带着笑容守望着的人。

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zhengwenyi 在职认证  发表于 2011-6-17 08:42:53
33-33
看它的发展吧,做的不好再来批。。
被 酒 莫 惊 春 睡 重 ,赌 书 消 得 泼 茶 香

地板
edison7535 发表于 2011-6-17 08:52:41
go-ahead 同意

after a fashion马马虎虎
难句: This week he seemed eager to respond to those demands – after a fashion.直到这一周,马云才勉勉强强回应雅虎和孙正义的要求。
lengthy 冗长
divest剥离
basic facts基本事实,核心事实
stalling tactics拖延战术
stipulate规定
plausible-sounding貌似真有其事的
conspiracy theory阴谋论
outline轮廓,大纲
sign-off 签署通过






Ma just followed the rule made by Chinese government,which prohibit the foreign ownership of the Chinese online payment company.But Ma should negotiate with shareholders at the first time.Because they had the contracts long time ago.The lack of information can easily lead to corruption and conspiracy thoery.
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collinhwa 发表于 2011-6-17 10:15:42
It's a shame that Alibaba is a foreign company

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曳尾涂中 发表于 2011-6-17 11:04:40
It is a amazing revelation that Yahoo and Softbank together own more than 70% of Alibaba Group. As a chinese entrepreneur, Jack Ma is successful. But what he has created is just a china-born-foreigner. I have a grave feeling. I was pride of Alipay,for it was the biggest third party payment of china even known all over the world. Irony, it turns out to be a exotic one. Make a suvey of all the so-called chinese cyber companies,  the results will shock you. Take Tencent as an example, South Africa MIH medium Group and America International Data Group together possess more than a half of the shares of Tencent. So that's what we don't want to see .
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guoyongyi68 发表于 2011-6-17 12:57:35
38,38
divest 剥离
board  董事会
stipulate  规定
subsidiary  子公司
Nice  article!man!

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达濠仁 发表于 2011-6-17 13:30:47 来自手机
38,38  要考试,只是看看。。。
It's better bo burn out than fade away .

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