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【转】劝大家放弃data职位,专攻码工 [推广有奖]

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FelicityYu 发表于 2017-1-13 23:58:23 |AI写论文

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不知道从什么时候开始,data这个词汇开始在华人圈流行起来了,泡泡越吹越大引得无

数人跳坑。究其原因无非是以下几点。

1. 看似容易。很多人无非就是觉得编程序头疼,而data貌似容易一些。这个时代,智
商是硬通货,脑力不够用而避重就轻,输在起点上了。

2. 看似前途远大。各种媒体疯狂吹嘘大数据机器学习这类虚头八脑的东西。其实做这
些的公司不多,做的也不过是运用了一些data技术的系统,还是靠大量码工来实现。有
大数据系统经验的码工包裹很高。

3. 看似比码工高大上。有数学,有统计,搞好了模型丢给码工去实现。你的职位是
andrew ng那种吗?不是那你high个屁。

4. 自我感觉是公司业务核心。其实就是个打杂的,处理数据的。地位最低了,被其他
业务部门呼来喝去的shared services。

5. 感觉这样的核心职位应该工资更高。数据统计表明,data职位在工资,职位数量,
职业发展都远远不如码工。职位都没几个,发展个毛呢?

其实要找到好的data的职位,还是得靠码工的技能,这个是无法回避的。烙印就不趟这
个浑水,集中精力一门心思做码工。大家最好还是醒醒,认清现实,向烙印学习。
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yzharold 发表于 2017-1-19 02:56:23
1. 看似容易。很多人无非就是觉得编程序头疼,而data貌似容易一些。这个时代,智
商是硬通货,脑力不够用而避重就轻,输在起点上了。

Partially agree, however, based on the training, you could focus on the analyses or interpretation or application or development of algorithm (such as Dr. Ng), I think data science are a general term to use, however, if you really want to find a job that is data related, there is lot of homework to do.

2. 看似前途远大。各种媒体疯狂吹嘘大数据机器学习这类虚头八脑的东西。其实做这
些的公司不多,做的也不过是运用了一些data技术的系统,还是靠大量码工来实现。有
大数据系统经验的码工包裹很高。

Agree, both of the implementation of the method (coding) and downstream analyses for generating profits (ultimate goal) are important, I do not think one is more important than the other. It depends on you which you are interested.

3. 看似比码工高大上。有数学,有统计,搞好了模型丢给码工去实现。你的职位是
andrew ng那种吗?不是那你high个屁。

Totally disagree, there are big range of jobs/positions/opportunities between the basic data scientist to Dr. Ng, no matter which level you are now, both mathematics, statistics are foundations for modelling. Coding is very important skill to have, for those who understands the methods better, should focus on some convenient tools to put the models into practice, at least for testing phases, for those who have strong skills in coding, should focus on understanding the mathematics or statistics behind so that the coding is more efficient. Do not forget that to commercialize anything, you do need professional software engineers and others to produce a whole package.

4. 自我感觉是公司业务核心。其实就是个打杂的,处理数据的。地位最低了,被其他
业务部门呼来喝去的shared services。

The only comments I have is that most of the companies are willing to establish a department like that so that they would not give up this chance to take a lead in their business comparing with others, I do not think it is a bad idea to start to a junior position and it is important to set up a goal where you want to be in five years or more.

5. 感觉这样的核心职位应该工资更高。数据统计表明,data职位在工资,职位数量,
职业发展都远远不如码工。职位都没几个,发展个毛呢?

"数据统计表明" where? To understand the core values or core business of the company will be far more important than grasping any single skill set you have. No matter which position you are now, coding or data science, if you could identify any area or provide any suggestion which would save a lot of resources for your company, you are the VIP and you will get promoted.

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FelicityYu 发表于 2017-1-19 23:56:24
Thank  you so much for your comments
I'm still doing my phd in biostatistcs and looking forward some career advices.

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