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U.S. Rating Cut by S&P on Deficit Reduction Pact
By John Detrixhe - Aug 6, 2011 8:19 AM (bloomberg)

The U.S. had its AAA credit rating downgraded for the first time by Standard & Poor’s on concern spending cuts agreed on by lawmakers to raise the nation’s borrowing limit won’t be enough to reduce record deficits.

S&P dropped the ranking one level to AA+, after warning on July 14 that it would reduce the rating in the absence of a “credible” plan to lower deficits even if the nation’s $14.3 trillion debt limit was lifted. The U.S. was awarded the top credit ranking by New York-based S&P in 1941. It kept the outlook at “negative.”

‘The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government’s medium-term debt dynamics,” S&P said in a statement today.

Demand for Treasuries has surged even with the specter of a downgrade as investors saw few alternatives to the traditional refuge during times of risk as concern increased global growth is slowing and Europe’s sovereign debt crisis is spreading. The action could still hurt the U.S. economy over time by increasing the cost of mortgages, auto loans and other types of lending tied to the interest rates paid on Treasuries. JPMorgan Chase & Co. estimated that a downgrade would raise the nation’s borrowing costs by $100 billion a year.

Moody’s, Fitch “It’s a reflection of the fact that we haven’t done enough to get our fiscal house in the order,” Anthony Valeri, market strategist in San Diego at LPL Financial, which oversees $340 billion, said in an interview before the downgrade. “Sovereign credit quality is going to remain under pressure for years to come.”

Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings affirmed their AAA credit ratings on Aug. 2, the day President Barack Obama signed a bill that ended the debt-ceiling impasse that pushed the Treasury to the edge of default. Moody’s and Fitch also said that downgrades were possible if lawmakers fail to enact debt reduction measures and the economy weakens.

The measure raised the nation’s debt ceiling until 2013 and threatens automatic spending cuts to enforce $2.4 trillion in spending reductions over the next 10 years.

S&P put the U.S. government on notice on April 18 that it risks losing its AAA rating unless lawmakers agree on a plan by 2013 to reduce budget deficits and the national debt. S&P indicated last month that anything less than $4 trillion in cuts would jeopardize the rating.

‘Grand Bargain’ “A grand bargain of that nature would signal the seriousness of policy makers to address the fiscal situation in the U.S.,” John Chambers, chairman of S&P’s sovereign rating committee, said in a video interview distributed by the ratings firm on July 28.

Obama has said a rating cut may hurt the broader economy by increasing consumer borrowing costs tied to Treasury rates. An increase in Treasury yields of 50 basis points would reduce U.S. economic growth by about 0.4 percentage points, JPMorgan said in a report, citing Federal Reserve research and data.

“The hope is that we could keep Treasuries pure, limited to interest rate risk,” Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive and co-chief investment officer at Pacific Investment Management Co., said in a Bloomberg Television interview before the announcement. “The minute you start downgrading away from AAA, you take small steps toward credit risk and that is something any country would like to avoid.”

Relative Yields Treasury yields average about 0.70 percentage point less than the rest of the world’s sovereign debt markets, Bank of America Merrill Lynch indexes show. The difference has expanded from 0.15 percentage point in January.

Investors from China to the U.K. are lending money to the U.S. government for a decade at the lowest rates of the year. For many of them, there are few alternatives outside the U.S., no matter what its credit rating.

“Yields are low in the face of a downgrade because there is nowhere else for people to go if they don’t buy Treasuries because they want to be in safe dollar assets,” Carl Lantz, head of interest-rate strategy at Credit Suisse Group AG, one of 20 primary dealers that trade directly with the Federal Reserve, said before the announcement.

Ten-year Treasury yields fell to as low as 2.33 percent in New York, the least since October.

Bond Dealers The committee of bond dealers and investors that advises the U.S. Treasury said the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency “appears to be slipping” in quarterly feedback presented to the government on Aug. 3. The U.S. currency’s portion of global currency reserves dropped to 60.7 percent in the period ended March 31, from a peak of 72.7 percent in 2001, International Monetary Fund data show.

“The idea of a reserve currency is that it is built on strength, not typically that it is ‘best among poor choices’,” page 35 of the presentation made by one member of the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee, which includes representatives from firms ranging from Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to Pimco. “The fact that there are not currently viable alternatives to the U.S. dollar is a hollow victory and perhaps portends a deteriorating fate.”

Members of the TBAC, as the committee is known, which met Aug. 2 in Washington, also discussed the implications of a downgrade of the U.S. sovereign credit rating. “None of the members thought that a downgrade was imminent,” according to minutes of the meeting released by the Treasury.

A U.S. credit-rating cut would likely raise the nation’s borrowing costs by increasing Treasury yields by 60 basis points to 70 basis points over the “medium term,” JPMorgan’s Terry Belton said on a July 26 conference call hosted by the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association. The U.S. spent $414 billion on interest expense in fiscal 2010, or 2.7 percent of gross domestic product, according to Treasury Department data.

“That impact on Treasury rates is significant,” Belton, global head of fixed-income strategy at JPMorgan, said during the call. “That $100 billion a year is money being used for higher interest rates and that’s money being taken away from other goods and services.”

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S&P dropped the ranking one level  from AAA+ to AA+,看来对老美还是挺有信心的

我曾经说过:即使个人都不敢轻易default,何况国家乎。不过,中国ZF也应该从中汲取教训
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xc2010economics 在职认证  发表于 2011-8-6 09:53:51 |只看作者 |坛友微信交流群
凤凰网专栏报道标普下调美国3A主权信用评级至AA+:http://finance.ifeng.com/stock/special/meixypj/
标准普尔下调美国3A主权信用评级至AA+http://finance.ifeng.com/stock/s ... 10806/4359866.shtml
克鲁格曼:醒醒吧 重要的是就业而非债限http://finance.ifeng.com/stock/s ... 10806/4359874.shtml
真实的可能:意债投射美二次衰退http://finance.ifeng.com/stock/s ... 10806/4359702.shtml
Credit rating:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_rating

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dynamics     n. 1. 力学;动力学[J] 2. 动力 3. 动态 4. 【音】力度;力度变化

surge      n. 1. 大浪,波涛 2. (波涛的)汹涌;奔腾 3. (波涛般的)涌到[S1] 4. (感情的)高...vi. 1. (海浪)汹涌;奔腾 2. (人)蜂拥而至 3. (感情)汹涌,澎湃[(+up)] 4. 猛冲;...

refuge      n. 1. 躲避;避难;庇护[(+from)] 2. 避难所;藏身处;(受虐妇女的)庇护所;收容所[...vt. 1. 接纳...避难;给予...庇护

sovereign     n. 1. 君主,元首;最高统治者 2. 主权国家 3. 英国旧时的一镑金币 a. 1. 最高统治者的 2. 拥有最高统治权的;具有独立主权的 3. 最高的,至尊的;至...

jeopardize     vt. 1. 使濒于危险境地;冒...的危险;危及

Sovereign credit quality is going to remain under pressure for years to come


标准普尔下调美国AAA评级至AA+ (各方反应更新中)http://wallstreetcn.com/node/4640
花旗提出美债争论5种可能结果 预计2012年上半年推出QE3 http://wallstreetcn.com/node/4438
美国降级手册:标普将美国信用评级从AAA降至AA+ (更新中)http://wallstreetcn.com/node/4642
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经过这次美国债务危机,中国也该认真想想如何降低自己的庞大外汇储备了。
也许中国真的会下定决心挤出房产泡沫了,因为只有泡沫被挤出了,才能有效的阻止热钱的持续流入,继续增加外汇储备。房地产的被打压也许会造成银行出现一些坏账。但是这又有什么关系呢?在10年前,中国就动用了外汇储备来解决银行的不良资产。未来中国一样可以采用同样的方法。
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US Treasury rate will not be the benchmark of risk-free rate. Although it is devalued, the default probabilities of AAA and of AA+ do not have a wide spread. As the largest investor of Treasury, Chinese government must lose huge amount of money. If they do not know how to spend the dollar reserve, they just give it back to States stupidly. Anyway, I believe in the sendonary market, the volatility of Treasuries is crazier. After Euro zone and United States debt crisis, next one will be in Japan, or closer to us.
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It deserves! I hope Euro and RMB will replace or share the dollar's status.

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在我看来于这场债务口水战,党派之争是问题的关键。其实,无论是民主党还是共和党,在削减赤字这一方面本身并无异议,因为他们都知道如果国会不能在8月2日前提高公共债务的上限,美国将面临违约风险。一旦美国发生债务违约,美国国债收益率将飙升,从而带动整个市场借贷成本上升,引发全球金融动荡。但党派之争,却并不是此番较量的本质。正如美国媒体指出,问题的关键不是数字,而是民主党与共和党的原则分歧。奥巴马总统希望通过提高富裕阶层税款来减少赤字,而共和党则希望减税,限制ZF规模。
  而实际上,经济方面,两党的美债上限之争,其实是不同的经济发展路线的斗争。说到底,是对国家未来的不同看法所致,是经济话语权之争,很难调和。加上选战的因素,共和党更是要紧抓奥巴马的弱处不放,所以,这种纠缠,将会持续到明年大选之前。
  看上去,奥巴马松了口气,也在现实版的《生死时速》中踩住了刹车,但事实上,他已经是输家。在整个危机过程中,奥巴马的支持率都在下滑,民众对其执政越发没有信心,他对于民众和媒体的影响力在进一步下降,曾经有过的话语权优势几乎已荡然无存。
  相反,共和党却得到了想要的东西:减缓举债速度、遏制奥巴马加税欲望、进一步增加在预算问题上的话语权。事实上,在博纳及共和党人看来,奥巴马的“大ZF”不是解决问题的手段,而是问题本身,其“我花你付”的哲学将会引发新的经济灾难。
    与此同时三大评级机构也松了口气,因为它们并不真的想下调美国的评级。此前评级机构的警告,更多的是在施压两党做出妥协,因为一旦美债违约,评级机构将不得不面临下调美国评级的尴尬局面,而消蚀美国的公信力和经济话语权,是其最难做出的决定。
    而在美债危机结束后,我们再回头,最耐人寻味的,还要说是市场的反应。从美股暴跌来看,投资者并没有将债务协议视为解决美国庞大债务问题的意义重大之举,相反,他们担心,在投资者和消费者信心低迷的情况下,紧缩措施可能给经济造成更大冲击,如今,越来越多的人承认,美国已经进入所谓“失速”的状态:企业利润不再增长,就业没有得到创造。这多少也意味着,美国政治决策对国际市场的影响力在下降。
  从表面上看,三大评级机构没有下调美国评级,但在许多民众心中,评级已经下调了。事实上,包括美国媒体的国际舆论都认为:这场风波有妥协而没有赢家,是急救而不是根除,是缓解而不是病愈,是迫不得已而不是心甘情愿。两党的鏖战已经有损于“美国信誉”。
  国际社会的反应也很说明问题。俄罗斯第一个站出来。普京总理早在这个周一,也就是8月1日表示,虽然美国自己解决了债务危机问题,但只是推迟了系统性解决方案的采用。他同时批评美国转嫁负担,是世界经济的“寄生虫”。而正如美国媒体所反思的那样,在地产繁荣的好年景里,美国各级ZF大肆挥霍,却没有为“荒年”做任何准备。当所有人都希望紧缩开支的时候,经济就吃不消了。这种“寄生虫”思维,也很值得其他尚未出现债务危机的国家和地区提防与反思。
  更进一步的,普京指出了美元霸权是问题的焦点,认为世界上应当产生其他储备货币,而不仅仅是美元。“欧元地位应当得到巩固,亚洲应当出现区域性储备货币,卢布也可能成为区域性储备货币。”
  这其实也传递了一个信号,越来越多的国家已经不满美元霸权地位及美国消费、别国买单的现状,换言之,针对美元话语权的斗争,将进入一个新的阶段。如果说,以前人们只是希望谈论此事,现在,越来越多的人已开始想办法改变现状了。

    一点东西,仅供参考



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苏江 发表于 2011-8-6 15:41:00 |只看作者 |坛友微信交流群
评级降低是美债务偿还能力降低,而非美元。
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思念江南 发表于 2011-8-6 16:20:52 |只看作者 |坛友微信交流群

A business organization  can evaluate grades  of   the behavior of the government,
It is worthy of learning from them
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