"不过一个北大校友告诉我在华尔街的美国人很迷信南大人和科大人,一听说是科大毕业或者南大毕业就竖起大拇指连说Smartest Guy,尤其是科大那些年纪不到20岁的年轻人,怎么都看不出是在华尔街打拚的。"
看了这段总让人联想什么“神州学人”或“人民日报”海外版,某某人走上国际讲台用流利的英语做了一报告,所有在场的外国人均竖起大姆指说中国人真伟大。在美国走南闯北十年,还从未 听说有人整天把自己的学校吹在嘴边,还拐弯末角说“华尔街的美国人”都迷信这两校毕生,切 不说世界上,在亚洲中国的高校同印度日本香港的高校差得就不是一个量级,更别说什么harvard,Uppen,Stanford,MIT,NWU etc. like what? "frog in a well?"
作者: 137.82.58.* 发布于 05-20 04:26
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that Nan Han Zhi Zi must be chasing a NJU girl. He is especially interested in sniffing NJU's stink feet. "看了这段总让人联想什么“神州学人”或“人民日报”海外版,某某人走上国际讲台用流利的英语做了一报告,所有在场的外国人均竖起大姆指说中国人真伟大。", you got it. in my point of view, he is in a typical apple polishing. if this guy go back to China, he would cheat people for his own interest. unfortunately, this kinds of guy are welcomed in China. In states, he can not sale. btw, in states, nobody blindly believe in the brand of a school. this article is extremely misleading.
作者: 152.163.201.* 发布于 05-20 10:26
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well, this type of article is the mainstream on this bbs, isn't it? and for sure, this kind of guys are welcomed in china, look at the media, Leifeng's potrait are hang on westpoint, a little girl break the record of cambridge history, a princple scientist is proudly translated as "首席科学家“,a regular contract emploee is translated as "高级顾问“, an assistant professor or associate professor prefer to be called "资深博导“ bala bala bala .... funny, funny, and there are so many posts in this board just do not have the word 'shame' in their dictionary!!!
作者: 218.104.83.* 发布于 05-25 15:30
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说句实话,我们南京的大学很现实的,一是一,二是二,一点五是一点五,南京比北京更实在,因为我们不是首都,我们没权力从地方收那么多钱。我们只有拼命工作,我们在和全世界竞争,你不能想象在苏州工业园里塞满一大帮只会吹牛的名牌大学毕业生(但我们的党政机关有不少),一帮天天做着创业梦的名牌大学毕业生,让什么学生创业见鬼去把,让什么年薪十万见鬼去吧。如果一个刚毕业的学生能拿1。2万美圆的年收入,那还会有这么多外国公司在江苏投资吗?竞争不是靠的嘴巴,也不是靠你的母校声望,他是实实在在的。在大牌的毕业生,在江苏,3个月没有一点业绩也是要滚蛋的。在这种氛围下训练出来的南大学生,比在皇城下熏陶的清华学子,更能适应冷酷无情的资本主义游戏规则,难道有什么奇怪的吗?难道清华的都是神吗?
本人是从事金融研究的,既不是北大情话也不是南大科大的,在《经济研究》等杂志上有第一作者的论文发表,我认为文中存在一些问题
(一)、麻省的Jiang Wang虽然确实很优秀,但是绝对不能说是第一华人金融学家,与他在同一个水平的甚至超过他的还包括他的师兄郎咸平(Larry h p Lang)和Chen Nai-fu。
郎咸平,台湾省人,1986年Wharton毕业(Jiang Wang也是这里毕业),曾经在Wharton商学院和芝加哥大学商学院任教。他仅仅在全世界金融类前两位的刊物:Journal of Finance, Journal of Financial Economics就发表了14篇文章,还在AER(美国经济评论)、JPE(政治经济学杂志)上发表了三篇。郎咸平在1990年的一篇论文Gilson,John, Lang(1990)根据Arnold等(2002)(该项排名即将在Journal of Business上发表,可以在下面网址免费下载
http://www.bus.lsu.edu/finance/faculty/butler/default.htm)在全世界引用次数最高的50篇金融论文中排34位,而且还是其中仅有的发表在90年代的5篇论文之一。(可以参见本人在天涯上的帖子“关注郎咸平”)
据我所知,全世界中青年经济学家中,在《Journal of Financial Economics》(金融类排名第一),《Journal of Finance》(金融类排名第二)发表14篇论文以上的人绝对不会超过20人,甚至10人。而且,根据官方的统计(
http://jfe.rochester.edu/inst.htm)大陆没有任何机构的学者在JFE上发表论文,根据我的统计,JF上也没有。
另一个是Chen Nai-fu,1989年就在Graduate School of Management, University of California, Irvine任 Professor of Finance,并曾在芝加哥任副教授。他的一篇文章Chen, Nai Fu; Roll, Richard; Ross,Stephen A.1986 Economic Forces and the Stock Market根据Arnold等(2002)排43位。根据另一项排名,他在全世界金融学家中引用次数排第78位(前十位分别是1 FAMA, E. 2 ROSS, S. 3 JENSEN, M. 4 BLACK, F. 5 SCHOLES, M. 6 MILLER, M. 7 MERTON, R. 8 ROLL, R. 9 SHARPE, W.10 COX, J. )。他也不是大陆人。在全世界金融类前三位的刊物:Journal of Finance, Journal of Financial Economics Journal of Business就发表了14篇文章,几乎都是第一作者.
Jiang Wang的成果数还没有上面提到的两位多,而且很多论文不是第一作者,引用次数更是不如Chen Nai-fu。而且,虽然Jiang Wang在定价模型方面的研究确实做得不错,但他还是比不上哈拂的John Campbell(
http://post.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/campbell/campbell.html),芝加哥大学的John Cochrane(
http://gsbwww.uchicago.edu/fac/john.cochrane/research/Papers/)等。而且,纽约大学的Qiang Dai(戴强,北大物理系毕业的,Stanford University的金融学PHD)在这方面也作得很好,由Elsevier出版的权威的经济学手册(Handbook of the Economics of Finance
http://www.cob.ohio-state.edu/fin/faculty/stulz/)固定债券定价一章就是由Dai Qiang)(
http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~qdai/)写的。该手册的其他作者包括Stephen Ross,Michael Jensen, David Easley, John Campbell,等金融学名家泰斗。
(二)、任何人都知道,中国的所有问题最根本在于制度,在一种扭曲的制度下,什么地方都会有坏人和好人,拘泥于某个学校好于某个学校的讨论是没有什么意义的,也是难以令人信服的,比如南大毕业的温元凯早就被证明是一个大骗子(见天涯上面的帖子“温元凯是骗子吗?”)。
(三)、华人金融学家还没有印度人多,根本谈不上什么叱咤美国华尔街,这可能只是某些南大学生的一乡情愿罢了。
(四)、文中不少言辞是缺乏论据的,如“不过一个北大校友告诉我在华尔街的美国人很迷信南大人和科大人,一听说是科大毕业或者南大毕业就竖起大拇指连说Smartest Guy”,据笔者所知,这两所学校的经济学金融学排名还没有进入全世界500位(北大也没有进入200位),怎么会这样有名呢?而且作为第三世界国家的大学,这两所学校其他方面的水平在全世界也是非常可怜的(虽然在国内还可以吓吓人).
CHEN, Nai-fu教授的著作列表
Nai-fu Chen and J. Ingersoll, "Exact Pricing in Linear Factor Models with Finitely Many Assets: A Note," Journal of Finance 38, June 1983, 985-988.
"Some Empirical Tests of the Theory of Arbitrage Pricing," Journal of Finance 38, December 1983, 1393-1414.
Nai-fu Chen and H. Johnson, "Hedging Options," Journal of Financial Economics 14, 1985, 317-21.
Nai-fu Chen, K.C. Chan and D. Hsieh, "An Exploratory Investigation of the Firm Size Effect," Journal of Financial Economics 14, 1985, 451-71.
Nai-fu Chen, R. Roll and S. Ross, "Economic Forces and the Stock Market," Journal of Business 59, 1986, 383-403.
Nai-fu Chen, To. Copeland and D. Mayers, "A Comparison of Single and Multifactor Portfolio Performance Methodologies," Journal of Financial and Quantitative Analysis 22, 1987, 401-17.
"Equilibrium Asset Pricing Models and the Firm Size Effect," Stock Market Anomalies, Elroy Dimson (Ed.), 179-96, Cambridge University Press, 1988.
Nai-fu Chen and K.C. Chan, "An Unconditional Asset Pricing Test and the Role of Firm Size as an Instrumental Variable for Risk," Journal of Finance 43, June 1988, 309-25.
"Financial Restructuring and Common Stock Returns: A Survey of the U.S. Experience," Schmalenbachs Zeitschrift fur betriebswirtschaftliche 9, September 1988, 768-78.
Nai-fu Chen, B. Grundy and R. Stambaugh, "Changing Risk, Changing Expectations and Dividend Yield Effects," Journal of Business 63, January 1990, S51-70.
Nai-fu Chen and K. C. Chan, "Structural and Return Characteristics of Small and Large Firms," Journal of Finance 46, June 1991, 529-54.
"Financial Investment Opportunities and the Macroeconomy," Journal of Finance 46, September 1991, 1467-84.
Nai-fu Chen, Raymond Kan and Merton Miller, "Are the Discounts on Closed-end Funds a Sentiment Index?," Journal of Finance 48, June 1993, 795-800, 809-10.
Nai-fu Chen, Charles Cuny and Robert Haugen, "Stock Volatility and the Levels of the Basis and Open Interest in Futures Contracts," Journal of Finance 50, March 1995, 281-300.
Nai-fu Chen and Raymond Kan, "Expected Returns and the Bid-ask Spread," in Modern Portfolio Theory and Applications, S. Saitou, K. Sawaki and K. Kubota (Ed.), July 1996, 65-80.
Nai-fu Chen and Feng Zhang, "Correlations, Trades and Stock Returns of the Pacific Rim Markets", Pacific Basin Finance Journal 5, 1997, 559-577.
Nai-fu Chen and Feng Zhang, "Risk and Return of Value Stocks," Journal of Business 71 (1998), 501-535.
Nai-fu Chen and Alex Chan, "An Intertemporal Currency Board," Pacific Economic Review 4 (1999), vol. 2, 215-232.
可以看出,他的一些文章是与莫顿·米勒,斯蒂芬·罗斯等大腕合写的,分量足啊!