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[其他] 危机总是周期性爆发的,与经济制度无关 [推广有奖]

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tommson 发表于 2011-8-15 12:55:28 |AI写论文

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多少年来,无论是教授、学者抑或学生、研究人员都有一个先入为主的概念:仿佛经济危机是资本主义制度所独有的、过一段时间就会爆发一次的历史循环。但实际上细想一下,这种危机——复苏——高涨——低潮的循环路径并非是只在资本主义条件下才存在的,也就是说社会主义同样也存在类似循环,但社会主义的循环方式则是以运动的方式体现的,即革命——建设——繁荣——动乱。也就是说,危机循环在现存何种制度下都是存在的,只是看所使用的制度更看重哪一方面,便会以哪一方面得极端变化显著体现。而这背后的深层逻辑,则是在于人类社会,乃至动物群落普遍存在的竞争法则。由于自然的多样性,人的个体差异及利己本能,总会使社会形态呈现出金字塔式的样子,而且内在张力使其差距不断拉大。在资本主义社会,这主要体现在贫富差距,在社会主义社会,则主要体现在权利差距,二者本质上都是生存资源分配的不均衡过度拉大,从而必然在一段时间后引发危机。而这正是这个世界的运行法则,世间万物莫不如此,生命本身不也是在不断重复着由生到死的循环吗?根据马克思主义理论,矛盾是普遍存在和相互转化的,说的就是这个道理,量变引发质变则是循环演变过程的生动概括。不断的循环就是这个世界的常态,相反相生是这个世界的法则,不是靠人力所可以改变的。
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关键词:经济制度 周期性 资本主义社会 资本主义制度 社会主义社会 社会主义 资本主义 周期性 历史

沙发
hongkailee 发表于 2011-8-15 14:10:50
对,危机的发生与制度无关,制度只是影响了危机的具体形式。

藤椅
ecnu2011 发表于 2011-8-15 17:42:43
资本主义制度之前的经济制度下也是周期性的危机吗?

板凳
lyngqng 发表于 2011-8-16 19:59:22
马克思说,事情发生总有规律的。周期性是规律的一种。单纯的研究周期性可能是在用长期的想法解决短期关注的问题,资本主义的ZF更替及其相关的问题就是一例。实体经济是所有的一切讨论的前提。澳洲经济的强劲发展跟矿业的稳健发展密不可分。以下是现任世行行长的一些想法,该不是空穴来风:

World Bank president criticizes western economic leadership source: http://www.dbune.com/news/busine ... mic-leadership.html

Vittorio Hernandez - AHN News
Sydney, Australia (AHN)

World Bank President Robert Zoellick criticized Western economic leaders,Sunday, charging that they caused the loss of investor confidence.

Zoellick said at the Asia Society's yearly dinner in Sydney that fears about the state of leading Western economies caused the massive downturn in the global stock markets. He stated out that the convergence of events in Europe and the U.S., combined with fragilities in the nature of the recovery, placed the world in a new danger zone.

The events include the European debt contagion and the prolonged impasse in dealing with the U.S. debt limit, which led to the credit rating downgrade of Washington by Standard & Poor's.

Because of these developments, Western economies are experiencing slow growth while developing economies are experiencing a faster pace of economic expansion.

He described the response of the eurozone and leaders in the 17-nation bloc to the sovereign debt crisis and uncompetitive economies as "a day too late."

In the case of the U.S., Zoellick observed that the focus of cutting government spending was on discretionary items, not on programs such as Social Security.

Finance ministers from different countries made a similar warning in an article published in Financial Times. They said the biggest block to economic recovery was political, not economic. The ministers challenged eurozone leaders to take more steps to reassure the markets.

In particular, they asked leaders to show more commitment to greater fiscal integration and governance arrangements that would "avoid moral hazard and entrench fiscal responsibility."



World Bank President Zoellick: Markets are in 'New Danger Zone'source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2 ... USTRE77D0V620110814

(Reuters) - The loss of market confidence in economic leadership in key countries like the United States and Europe coupled with a fragile economic recovery have pushed markets into a new danger zone, something that policymakers have to take seriously, the head of the World Bank said on Sunday.

Speaking at the Asia Society dinner in Sydney, Robert Zoellick also said the global economy was going through a multi-speed recovery, with developing countries now the source of growth and opportunity.

"What's happened in the past couple of weeks is there is a convergence of some events in Europe and the United States that has led many market participants to lose confidence in economic leadership of some of the key countries," he said.

"I think those events combined with some of the other fragilities in the nature of recovery have pushed us into a new danger zone. I don't say those words lightly ... so that policymakers recognize and take it seriously for what it is."

Zoellick said the process of dealing with the sovereign debt problem and some of the competitive issues in the euro zone have tended to be done "a day late," leaving markets worried that authorities may not be ahead of the problem or moving in the right direction.

"That (worry) has accumulated and so we're moving from drama to trauma for a lot of the euro zone countries," he said.

On the United States, Zoellick said it wasn't fears the world's biggest economy faced an imminent problem, but "frankly that markets are used to the United States playing a key role in the economic system and leadership."

He said efforts to cut U.S. government spending have so far been focused on discretionary spending as opposed to the entitlement program such as social security. "Until they make an effort on those programs, there is going to be continued skepticism about dealing with long-term spending."

Zoellick said while market confidence has been hit, the real issue was whether this will spread to business and consumer confidence, something that was still unclear.

"What is different from the world of the past is now emerging markets are sources of growth and opportunity. About half of global growth is represented by the developing world ... so this is a very rapid change in a relatively short span of time in historical terms," he added.

On China, Zoellick said the appreciation of the yuan would be constructive, especially in helping tackle the country's inflationary pressure.

On Australia, he said the country was in a much better position than other developed countries because it undertook structural reforms. On the fiscal side, he noted Australia's debt was only 7 percent of gross domestic product and taking advantage of its position in the Asia Pacific..


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天羽降尘 发表于 2011-8-17 15:49:29
资本主义经济危机的本质简单说 我想是因为盲目投资 投资者对不确定性估计不足 比如把不能预测的不确定全部当成风险来量化 高估了收益 其它产业结构问题都是这种过渡投资产生的 本质是个体信息有限的客观性
社会主义计划经济没有个人投资 生产出的东西过量或不足 中央调配消耗掉或挤压
经济危机是个完整的周期过程 危机爆发只是其中一个环境 危机造成的调整产业结构 失业相当于劳动力储备 是为下一期的复苏铺垫 这个意义上 只有资本主义社会有经济危机 社会主义没有

地板
milkvendor 发表于 2011-8-20 14:45:25
我理解的危机是资源配置失调。企业家在决定提供某种产品或者服务时,只是基于对未来市场的一种预期,并不是未来的实际需求,这种预期与实际的差距表现在两方面。一方面是时间上的差距,比如明年市场上只需要10件,但是企业家却生产了20件;另一方面是5年后市场已经不需要了,企业家在当期的决策却是5年后市场需要100件。这两种不匹配加起来,就导致了供求失衡。更危险的是,在这种情况下,企业家可以通过信用,继续放大供给,导致预期与实践越差越大,最终导致企业的现金流断链,银行等金融机构也随之受伤。所以杠杆虽然对企业家有利,但是也可能给社会带来更大的伤害,因此,杠杆的适度很重要。理论上,没有杠杆就没有经济危机,每个人都对自己的行为完全负责,但是没有杠杆又无法充分发挥企业家的才能,而杠杆的使用又会导致危机的产生。纠结……

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潭生.经济学笔记 发表于 2014-11-27 16:53:31
,不是靠人力所可以改变的。

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