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    An online ranking that compares the performance of academics across all fields found that Karl Marx is the most influential scholar and Edward Witten is the most influential scientist。

      Is theoretical physicist Ed Witten more influential in his field than the biologist Solomon Snyder is among life scientists? And how do their records of scholarly impact measure up against those of past greats such as Karl Marx among historians and economists, or Sigmund Freud among psychologists?

     Performance metrics based on values such as citation rates are heavily biased by field, so most measurement experts shy away from interdisciplinary comparisons. The average biochemist, for example, will always score more highly than the average mathematician, because biochemistry attracts more citations.

     But researchers at Indiana University Bloomington think that they have worked out the best way of correcting this disciplinary bias. And they are publishing their scores online, for the first time letting academics compare rankings across all fields.

      Their provisional (and constantly updated) ranking of nearly 35,000 researchers relies on queries made through Google Scholar to normalize the popular metric known as the h-index (a scientist with an h-index of 20 has published at least 20 papers with at least 20 citations each, so the measure takes into account quantity and popularity of research). It found that as of 5 November, the most influential scholar was Karl Marx in history, ahead of Sigmund Freud in psychology. Number three was Edward Witten, a physicist at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey. The ranking appears on the website Scholarometer, developed by Filippo Menczer, an informatician at Indiana University Bloomington, and his colleagues Jasleen Kaur and Filippo Radicchi.

Universal metrics
     “We think there is a hunger for this. Our colleagues use Google Scholar all the time, and yet it only shows the h-index," says Menczer. "We are constantly asking ‘how do we evaluate people in a discipline we don’t understand?’”

   In October, Menczer's team published a paper arguing that the best statistical way to remove disciplinary bias is to divide a researcher’s h-index by the average of their scholarly field.

    Using this correction, Marx scores more than 22 times the average h-index of other scholars in history (but 11 times that of the average economist). Witten has more than 13 times the average physicist, and so on. The effect is to ensure that those in, say, the top 5% of their discipline also appear in the top 5% of all scholars.

      The idea is not new. Metrics experts have invented numerous methods to solve bias, often using averages based on age, journal and scholarly field. Normalized measures are available from commercial information firms such as Thomson Reuters.

First time for everything
     But Scholarometer pushes boundaries in two ways. Most importantly, its normalized scores are freely accessible, unlike those of most sites. Thomson Reuters analyses are based on proprietary databases and cannot be made public. Another site, Publish or Perish, does return a variety of age and field-normalized metrics from public queries to Google Scholar — but only to one individual at a time. The problem is that Google Scholar blocks automated computer programs that hit it with multiple queries, making it impossible to collate scores.

       The Indiana team’s solution is to create an automated program that does not query Google Scholar itself, but rather scrapes the results of individual Google Scholar queries placed through a Scholarometer browser extension. Over years, they have built up a dynamic public database, with h-indices constantly revised as new Google Scholar queries come in. Menczer says that an age-corrected h-index that allows comparison of scholars at different career stages may follow.


      The normalization problem is also much trickier than it seems — how do you decide what constitutes a field? A stem-cell researcher may think it unfair for their score to be corrected by the average of all biologists, for example. The Scholarometer team puts its faith in crowd-sourcing, placing researchers in multiple fields based on tags suggested in Google Scholar queries. Marx, for example, is tagged as a historian, economist and philosopher, with his highest score in history.

     Scholarometer's success depends on the accuracy of Google Scholar, which is far from comprehensive or consistent. “A user-based tool like Scholarometer can hardly deliver consistent results for fair comparison and field-normalization,” says Werner Marx, who studies scholarly metrics at the Max Planck Institute for Solid State Research in Stuttgart, Germany. And the corrected h-index is only one measurement. Experts recommend using a basket of metrics, together with peer-reviewed opinions, to compare researchers.

     “I tend not to put a whole lot of weight on these numbers and I’ve never heard of the h-index,” says James Ihle, a biochemist at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee — who at one stage placed fourth overall in the Scholarometer ranking. If you, as an evaluator, have to rely solely on corrected h-indices to compare academics, says Ihle, “then you’re dumb, and you don’t understand what you are doing”.

But the point, says Menczer, is to publicly correct the bias of popular metrics. “It allows people to think beyond their discipline.”

This article is reproduced with permission from the magazine Nature. The article wasfirst published on November 6, 2013.

来源:http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=who-is-the-best-scientist-of-all-time


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google翻译如下,以利网友辨识: 比较的表现在所有领域的学者发现,卡尔·马克思是最有影响力的学者和爱德华·威滕一个在线排名是最有影响力的科学家。 理论物理学家埃德威滕比生物学家所罗门斯奈德在他的领域较有影响力的是生命科学家之间的?怎么他们的记录对那些过去的伟大历史学家和经济学家之间的卡尔·马克思,弗洛伊德等心理学家之间的学术影响测量? 性能指标值,如引用率的基础上偏重的领域,所以大多数测量 ...

洪木林 发表于3楼  查看完整内容

我怀疑你是否看懂了这篇英文报道,还是只是搜出一个Karl Marx is the most influential scholar就兴高采烈地拿出来秀? 1、这篇报道的意思是:Indiana University发明了一种新的评分体系可以计算各个领域内的专家的影响因子,避免了以前方法的某些偏差。这是一篇纯粹讨论论文影响因子的文章。 2、就算是Karl Marx is the most influential scholar,有什么可高兴的?希特勒是历史领域里most influential的人(之一),你也崇拜他 ...
“要么说些更远的/更远的/远到天际/远到看不见你/那样/我就去找你/一定把你找到”

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sunandmoon2046 发表于 2013-11-12 01:02:35
每天顶一下,直到这个坛子上那个所谓真相贴进回收站。
“要么说些更远的/更远的/远到天际/远到看不见你/那样/我就去找你/一定把你找到”

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洪木林 发表于 2013-11-12 09:24:28
我怀疑你是否看懂了这篇英文报道,还是只是搜出一个Karl Marx is the most influential scholar就兴高采烈地拿出来秀?
1、这篇报道的意思是:Indiana University发明了一种新的评分体系可以计算各个领域内的专家的影响因子,避免了以前方法的某些偏差。这是一篇纯粹讨论论文影响因子的文章。
2、就算是Karl Marx is the most influential scholar,有什么可高兴的?希特勒是历史领域里most influential的人(之一),你也崇拜他?还是你不懂influential这个词?
3、这篇文章和什么“千年思想家票选”八杆子都打不着。一个是讨论影响因子,一个是讨论思想哲学。你这逻辑就好象说:因为白菜最受欢迎,所以胡萝卜应该排名第一

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贝克汉姆0 发表于 2013-11-12 10:18:25
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贝克汉姆0 发表于 2013-11-12 10:36:39
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qf20089 发表于 2013-11-12 13:03:15
贝克汉姆0 发表于 2013-11-12 10:18
google翻译如下,以利网友辨识:

比较的表现在所有领域的学者发现,卡尔·马克思是最有影响力的学者和爱 ...
这翻译。。。也太有母语水平了吧。。。

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sunandmoon2046 发表于 2013-11-12 14:12:26
洪木林 发表于 2013-11-12 09:24
我怀疑你是否看懂了这篇英文报道,还是只是搜出一个Karl Marx is the most influential scholar就兴高采烈地 ...
丢人不?你看懂文章没有?你用谷歌学术搜索来证明希特勒是历史学研究领域最有影响的人看看,……

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“要么说些更远的/更远的/远到天际/远到看不见你/那样/我就去找你/一定把你找到”

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sunandmoon2046 发表于 2013-11-12 14:15:19
贝克汉姆0 发表于 2013-11-12 10:36
最有影响……或许可以;
最伟大……可就未必啦!
这是跨学科的评价体系,把马克思放在历史学、哲学、经济学三个领域综合得出,而且还在继续。伟大是价值判断,影响是事实判断。
“要么说些更远的/更远的/远到天际/远到看不见你/那样/我就去找你/一定把你找到”

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caoheng 发表于 2013-11-12 14:26:51
  马克思的东西也就是一个大杂烩而已。科学性和学术性都谈不上。但误导性这一点来说,倒是全人类占第一位。

  我很佩服马克思东西的误导性。能让世界那么多国家上当。


  这个误导性来源于它披着科学的外衣,但内容却完全没有科学性。这是很奇怪的现象。


  英、美国家的人很清楚,谁信马克思谁倒霉,所以,人家才会不去批马克思呢?这世界上有谁不希望别人去倒霉呢?别指望英、美国家的人说马克思的坏话。




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龚民 发表于 2013-11-12 15:08:46
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